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raikiri

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I see that I have disturbed the mindset of some people who refuse to learn new languages when they go to New places, stay there for 10 years and keep saying "nenu ilane unta, naaku vochinde matladatha, vallaki ardham kaakapothey Valla karma"
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I see that I have disturbed the mindset of some people who refuse to learn new languages when they go to New places, stay there for 10 years and keep saying "nenu ilane unta, naaku vochinde matladatha, vallaki ardham kaakapothey Valla karma"
looks like you are confused. You ask why northies don’t learn south langs & also say Hindi is enough but not Marathi, Gujarathi, Bengali & others. South vallu north elthe (to any state) Hindi nerchukuntaru, north/ne vallu ikkadiki vaste English tho manage chestaru. They don’t have any prob, what is this discussion about?
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Marchipoyadaa? Tsk tsk tsk...

Ante scratch nunchi Hindi nerchukkunnollu unnaru south Indians akkadiki vellinollu ante ledhu saripodhu Gujarati Marathi Bengali Kuda nerchukovali ante em chestham le... lol


Ade antunna. Hindi nerchukune badulu marathi nerchukovachu ga elago from scratch nerchukuntunnadu ga. Colleagues tho English lo manage cheyochu. Local vallatho Marathi lo matladochu. What is need of learning hindi.
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Lol strict rules like Tamil Nadu. Like as if there is a common Dravidian language for south India which they refuse to speak.


I meant to say if I go to local shop in TN and WB and assume they are illiterate to speak in English , then I can manage to speak with local guy in Wb because they know hindi but it is difficult in TN because they know only Tamil which I don’t know. Don’t tell me everyone knows English by default.
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Manam north velli hindi nerchukuntunnam ante Adi manaku convenient kabatti anthe kani manam thopu ani kadhu. Nerchukokunda English tho kuda manage cheyochu. I was in Germany for 2 years. Vallaki left, right numbers Lantivi kuda English lo emantaro teliyadu. “ Meku English matladatam vacha” ane sentence tho 2 years manage chesa. At the end it’s about convenient and interest.
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Slaves will learn the language of the masters not the other way round . 😁 why are we all speaking English . 😁
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Manam north velli hindi nerchukuntunnam ante Adi manaku convenient kabatti anthe kani manam thopu ani kadhu. Nerchukokunda English tho kuda manage cheyochu. I was in Germany for 2 years. Vallaki left, right numbers Lantivi kuda English lo emantaro teliyadu. “ Meku English matladatam vacha” ane sentence tho 2 years manage chesa. At the end it’s about convenient and interest.
ap vallu Kerala velte Ela communicate cheyali?
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Ee vishayam lo ap Muslims ki hyd Muslims ki chaala teda untundhi .

Ap Muslims speak proper Telugu without any flaw. Hyd Muslims manage a few words and many look at Telugu as some inferior language. Only a few hyd Muslims speak proper Telugu. I believe Mohammad azaruddin and sania Mirza don't speak fluent Telugu?


I know a hyd Muslim who was educated his entire life in andhra so he knows telugu. Yet his entire family only knows Urdu, and his children only know Urdu.

I think it’s mostly just about need. It might be hard to survive with English/Urdu in andhra, but you would live in hyd without a problem.

Same problem in bangalore. No one cares about Kannada because everyone can survive with just English/Hindi/Telugu etc.
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ap vallu Kerala velte Ela communicate cheyali?


tour ki vellinappudu sign language thone. maa brother kuda almost 4 years cochin lo job chesadu. but dont know anything in malayalam. at last its about interest to learn
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Slaves will learn the language of the masters not the other way round . 😁 why are we all speaking English . 😁
eppudaina alochinchava why people start speaking English when drunk ani 😃
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You did not understand op.

I don't care about why Gautam gambhir doesn't know Telugu.

I want to know why folk like Kajal Agarwal and Mukesh rishi cannot still speak in Telugu despite a decade plus years of interaction and working closely with Telugu people.

What about manchu lakshmi?
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usually TN and Kerala lo settle aina vallaki .. local language vasthadhi... the locals feel pride in their language and we also see value add
karnataka and andhra people ki .. valal language vallake sariga radhu ... and too much of cosmo culture avatam tho .. valla kids ki ey language radhu english tappa
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I am staying in Bangalore for more than 10 years and I dont know to speak Kannada... Adhi thappu...

I need to spend my time and learn the language to satisfy somebody's ego antey emi cheyyalemu...

Hmmm okay

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Necessary ite nerchukuntaru... office lo some of my north & Bengali colleagues learnt few telugu sentences which are essential to communicate telugu workers(labour) but our same set of workers never tried to learn / speak in hindi with them..

Yes ..We have an advantage of learning Hindi as we have Hindi as our second language..So some people communicate in Hindi at necessary level...
Maa govt High school used to offer /encourage students to go for exams like Prathamika , madyama,Rashtra basha, Praveshika etc in Hindi language with the help of which we can compete for Hindi teachers ..


Central Govt encouraging employees to speak/ communicate in Hindi ..They offer special Hindi incentive to whomever communicates (maintains records) in Hindi instead of English.. we have been offering to contest in "Fortnight Hindi pad-mala Quiz competition" since last 9 days.. They say Hindi is our official language & ask every employee to contest without fail ..

Finally idi manaki (people down south ) manchide .. Learning other languages is Good & offers some confidence...
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okappudey bagundedi lifeuu....oka aaddhi manav...oka tribe....ala undi untey bagunnu...lokam antha

appudu yi language and other regional and religional barriers lekunda..kevalam barter system tho....hayiga undeyvallu....

hey....bhagawan....old ages ki tiskellipo...ma andarni...appudey ma life happy ga undedi
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okappudey bagundedi lifeuu....oka aaddhi manav...oka tribe....ala undi untey bagunnu...lokam antha

appudu yi language and other regional and religional barriers lekunda..kevalam barter system tho....hayiga undeyvallu....

hey....bhagawan....old ages ki tiskellipo...ma andarni...appudey ma life happy ga undedi

Tindi kosam poratam mama..adavi lo jantuvulato mundu nuvvu tintavo or Nene ninnu tintano ane poratam cheyali roju
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Tindi kosam poratam mama..adavi lo jantuvulato mundu nuvvu tintavo or Nene ninnu tintano ane poratam cheyali roju


fact mama...kani mari antha enakkiki kadu mama....kastha manaki fire and food...vegetables tho food chesukunentha enakki...aa kalam..barter system appudu....

appudu food okkatey...leda antey janthuvulatho....

ippudu annititho poradi anavasraam..ga ASALU MANISHI THANA ASTHITHVANNEY POGOTUUKUNTUNNADU MAMA
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fact mama...kani mari antha enakkiki kadu mama....kastha manaki fire and food...vegetables tho food chesukunentha enakki...aa kalam..barter system appudu....

appudu food okkatey...leda antey janthuvulatho....

ippudu annititho poradi anavasraam..ga ASALU MANISHI THANA ASTHITHVANNEY POGOTUUKUNTUNNADU MAMA

Hmm correct eh
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Unlike south Indians who take pride in learning English. North doesnt have this english penetration which makes Hindi default language (also for Gujrat, Maharastra, Jharkand etc.. Hindi is not their primary language)

End of the day ppl speak a language based on necessity... cities lo you can get on with English and bits a pieces of local language..

villages and towns are where ppl need to learn local language... (but general ga ikada kuda manaki vachi rani Hindi ni pradarsistam )

ipudu TN lo kuda Tamil nerchukokunda panichestuna northies vellalo vunnaru as now South needs North workers not the other way round (as we are moving into manpower crunch scenario in heavy work jobs)
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Why do most of the Telugu/Tamil people who have move to Bangalore won't learn Kannada? Because, it's not really necessary. 

Honestly, who cares...If a person is able to live in Bangalore, Hyd etc just by knowing English, Hindi, then there is no need for them to learn local languages.. Majority of the people learn a new language out of necessity..no one forces them to learn. Let people speak whatever language they want as long as they aren't creating trouble for others.
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ayina naa experience cheptanu..

2000 lo i joined in engineering in kancheepuram.. initial ga tamil raadu and no one bothered abt it.. as many ppl know telugu and also they are happy to see telugu ppl (chaala mandiki mother tongue adi).. but with in 1 yr lo Tamil nerchukuna... 

2004 lo Hyderabad vachanu for GRE training and have seen ppl trying to learn Hindi (hyderbadi).. though  i came to know ppl know telugu but its cool to know some urdu/hindi...

its all about requirement and fascination... US lo vunde aged south america vaalaki mukka english raadu ayina they are surviving as they are into jobs that require hardwork more than speaking... 


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AP lo vunna Gujarati, Marwadi vallandaru telugu matladataru....they speak fluently just like us

Blore, Hyd lo enduku nerchukoru ante they dont have the necessity as they can manage with Hindi...

Necessity is the mother of invention ani...ilantivi passion to nerchukune 1% nu pakkana pedite its out of necessity...


Its like asking why dont IT guys learn local languages and why do Chai walas learn so many languages ?
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By your same earlier logic that you will need Hindi to survive in the north, you will need to learn Kannada to survive in Kannada land.

I myself had a funny experience with a Kannada autodriver. I tried to speak in Telugu, Tamil, Hindi and English but he blurted out in Kannada that he knew none of those languages.



Thats okay !

Enough of kannada humiliation...

Papam ...you need to understand their frustration and move on !
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AP lo vunna Gujarati, Marwadi vallandaru telugu matladataru....they speak fluently just like us

Blore, Hyd lo enduku nerchukoru ante they dont have the necessity as they can manage with Hindi...

Necessity is the mother of invention ani...ilantivi passion to nerchukune 1% nu pakkana pedite its out of necessity...


Its like asking why dont IT guys learn local languages and why do Chai walas learn so many languages ?


True..

In fact, Hyderabad lo ayithe, they simply hate mingling with Telugu commeunites and live in a different world...

Also, hyd lo konni apartments lo telugus not allowed and only hindi anta....that just suprised me ! This is the sad state of affairs......
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Ee vishayam lo ap Muslims ki hyd Muslims ki chaala teda untundhi .

Ap Muslims speak proper Telugu without any flaw. Hyd Muslims manage a few words and many look at Telugu as some inferior language. Only a few hyd Muslims speak proper Telugu. I believe Mohammad azaruddin and sania Mirza don't speak fluent Telugu?
Rayalaseema lo kuda chala mandi turaka vallaki telugu sariga radu ..few years back, hyderabad abids godrej showroom ki poyi nenu telugu lo matladithey adu urdu lo matladutundu, enthaki taggtala saleman kuda .. sare ani hindi/urdu vachina matlade uddesam leka english lo matlada.

office lo north vallu enta sachina hindi lo matladanu only english .. hindi valla makenti upayogam laddu londi, rather we accept english as our national language but never hindi ani open ga cheppesa.
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Chennai lo okkate business chese north vallu konchem local language lo matladatam chusa, inka ekkada chudaledu
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half of norties are nisanis manh..they are not capable of learning another language
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Chennai lo okkate business chese north vallu konchem local language lo matladatam chusa, inka ekkada chudaledu
Tenali randi sokam paina marwadis speak Telugu. Some speak better than us. Avasaram or govt. ani nerpistundi.
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Rayalaseema lo kuda chala mandi turaka vallaki telugu sariga radu ..few years back, hyderabad abids godrej showroom ki poyi nenu telugu lo matladithey adu urdu lo matladutundu, enthaki taggtala saleman kuda .. sare ani hindi/urdu vachina matlade uddesam leka english lo matlada.

office lo north vallu enta sachina hindi lo matladanu only english .. hindi valla makenti upayogam laddu londi, rather we accept english as our national language but never hindi ani open ga cheppesa.



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Chennai lo okkate business chese north vallu konchem local language lo matladatam chusa, inka ekkada chudaledu


Hyderabad lo kuda matladataru.....they hate doing so although...
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Ee vishayam lo ap Muslims ki hyd Muslims ki chaala teda untundhi .

Ap Muslims speak proper Telugu without any flaw. Hyd Muslims manage a few words and many look at Telugu as some inferior language. Only a few hyd Muslims speak proper Telugu. I believe Mohammad azaruddin and sania Mirza don't speak fluent Telugu?
Hyderabadis lo most of them are proper descendants with huge Islam centric influence as they were ruled for centuries...

Andhra antha max converted muslims from generations with huge local influence and culture... Jani, Jilani, subhani types as I understand... I used to translate Hindi for Local Vijayawada Muslims(our house owners) from Rajasthani Muslims(our neighbours). Least influenced anukunta apart from certain specific areas like Vijayawada Panja area, guntur one town, kurnool, kadapa as I see.
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Rayalaseema lo kuda chala mandi turaka vallaki telugu sariga radu ..few years back, hyderabad abids godrej showroom ki poyi nenu telugu lo matladithey adu urdu lo matladutundu, enthaki taggtala saleman kuda .. sare ani hindi/urdu vachina matlade uddesam leka english lo matlada.

office lo north vallu enta sachina hindi lo matladanu only english .. hindi valla makenti upayogam laddu londi, rather we accept english as our national language but never hindi ani open ga cheppesa.
I do the same, never speak in Hindi even though they do before me everyday, we had a discussion about having Hindi as National Language too, as per the all states acceptance English should be fine, but the native concern to have Sanskrit as National Language is much supported from my side.
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When we southies go to north we pick up hindi in about 2-3 years. They might laugh at us at first, but we pick it up anyway.

But northies refuse to learn south languages in a very adamant way. Even after 10 years of staying here they refuse to speak in Telugu, Tamil, Kannada or Malayalam.

What are your thoughts and experiences on this issue?
vallaki noru thiragadhu
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Becoz most of us have hindi as 2nd language in school. Its easy for most of us to converse.
Where as they dont have that option for our languages.


Sensible post.
Urike northies meedha eguruthunnaru kondaru. On one hand we have Hindi as a school subject, on the other hand no one in north speaks Telugu or Tamil so we are forced to learn Hindi.

A north Indian can easily survive in Hyderabad, Bengaluru or in may second-tier cities with just Hindi and English as there are many people who can understand. So it is not really a conscious rejection of regiional languages by Northies. 
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I do the same, never speak in Hindi even though they do before me everyday, we had a discussion about having Hindi as National Language too, as per the all states acceptance English should be fine, but the native concern to have Sanskrit as National Language is much supported from my side.


+1

If even India needs a national language then it should be Sanskrit and not Hindi.
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