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As requested by few members, here is my view/analysis on the BO results of Current Generation leading actors of Tamil Cinema- Vijay, Ajith, Surya, Vikram, Dhanush

The classification is relative w.r.t the actor's BO range at the time and in some cases, the classification between the categories is little unclear as there is no clear definition of each of the classification, it's only intended to convey how well it performed at the time of it's release.

Vijay- 57 films

Blockbusters/Superhits

Kaththi (2014)- Blockbuster

Thuppakki (2012)- Blockbuster

Nanban(2011)- Hit

Velayutham (2011)- Hit

Pokkiri(2007)- SuperHit/Blockbuster

Sivakasi (2005)- Hit  (remade as Vijayadasami)

Thirupachi(2005) - SuperHit   (remade as Annavaram in telugu)

Ghilli (2004)- Blockbuster  (Okkadu remake)

Tirumalai (2003)- Hit  (remade in telugu as Gowry Area Dhoolpet)

Friends(2001)- SuperHit (Snehamante Ide Ra in telugu)

Priyamanavale (2000) - Hit (Pavitra Bandham remake)

Kushi(2000)- SuperHit 

Thulladha Manamum ThullumI(1999) - SuperHit (Nuvvu Vasthavani original)

Ninathen Vandhai(1998) - Hit (Pelli Sandadi Remake)

Kadhalukku Mariyadhai(1997) - Blockbuster

Nerukku Ner(1997)- Hit (multi-Starer with Surya)

Love Today(1997) - SuperHit (Suswagatham movie in telugu)

Poove Unakaga(1996) - SuperHit (Subhakankshalu original)

Rasigan(1994) - Hit

 

Average-AboveAverage range films

Jilla(2014)- Above Average (Hit outside TN)

Thalaiva(2013)- Average (Hit outside TN)

Kaavalan(2011)- Average (Bodyguarad movie in telugu)

Vettaikaran- Above average

Badri(2001)- above average (Thammudu remake)

Youth(2002)- Above Average (Chirunavutho remake)

Priyamudan(1998)- Average

OnceMore(1997)- Average

 

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Ajith- 55 films

Blockbuster/Superhits

Arrambam(2013) - SuperHit

Mankatha(2011)- SuperHit

Billa(2007)-  SuperHit.

Varalaaru(2006)- SuperHit

Villain(2002) - SuperHit

Dheena(2001)- SuperHit

Kandukondain Kandukondain(2000)- Hit (Priyuralu Pilichindi)

Vaali (1999)- Super Hit

Amarkalam(1999)- Super Hit

Anandha Poonkatre(1999)- Hit

Nee Varuvayane(1999)- Hit (Cameo- Ninne Premistha Nagarjuna Role)

Unnai Thedi(1999)- Hit

Kadhal Kottai(1996) - SuperHit  (dubbed as Prema Lekha)

Vanmathi(1996) - Hit

Aasai(1995)- SuperHit 

 

Average-AboveAverage range films

Yennai Arindhal(2013)- Above Average (Hit outside TN)

Veeram(2014)- Above Average

Attagasam(2004)- Above Average

Kireedam(2007)- Average

Paramasivan(2006)- Average

Citizen(2001)- Average

Mugavari(2001)- average

Kadhal Mannan(1998)- average

 
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Suriya - 31 films

Singam2(2013)- Blockbuster

7am Arivu(2011)- SuperHit

Singam(2010)- SuperHit

Ayan(2009)- Blockbuster

Vaaranam Aayiram(2008) - Hit

Vel(2007)- Hit

Ghajini(2005) - SuperHit

PithaMagan(Supporting Role) (2003) - Hit

Kakka Kakka(2003)- SuperHit

Mounam Pesiyadhe(2002)- Hit

Friends(supporting role)(2001)-Super Hit

Nerukku Ner(1997)- Hit (Debut movie- multi-Starer with Vijay)

 

Average-AboveAverage range films

Aadhavan(2009)- Average

Aaru(2005)- Average

Unnai Ninaithu(2002)- Average

Nandha(2001)- Above average

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Vikram

I(2015)- Blockbuster/SuperHit

Deiva Thirumagal (2011)- Hit

Anniyan (2005)- Blockbuster

Saamy (2003)- Blockbuster

Dhool (2003)- SuperHit/Blockbuster

Gemini (2002)- SuperHit

Dhil(2001) - Hit

Sethu(1999) - Super Hit


Average to Above Average films

Kanthaswamy(2009)  - Average

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Dhanush- 25+ films

Anegan(2015)- Hit

VIP(2014)- SuperHit to Blockbuster

Raanjhana(2013) - Hit (Hindi Movie)

Padikkathavan(2009) - Hit

Yaaradi Nee Mohini (2008) - Hit    (Venky AMAV remake)

Polladhavan(2007)- SuperHit

Thiruvilaiyaadal Aarambam(2006) - Hit

Thiruda Thirudi(2003)- Super Hit  (Donga Dongadhi original)

Kaadhal Kondein(2003)- Super Hit  (Nenu original)

Thulluvadho Ilamai(2002)- Hit (Debut)

Average-Above Average Films

Aadukalam(2011)- Above Average
Mayakkam Enna (2011) - Average
Devathaiyai Kanden(2005)- Average

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Other Actors- will be updated later
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Thanks Phoenix garu.. [thumb][thumb] for ur efforts..
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ee actors lo evariki IH,s leva ?
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@Pheonix...IH's list kuda pettandi overall...
descending order aythe...
1)Robo
2)Sivaji
3)Chandramukhi
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ee actors lo evariki IH,s leva ?


IHS ni kottalante rajani ni daataali..adhi ayye pani kadhu...

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Good Compilation ...

By the way I Superhit or Blockbuster ela avutundi....Its just Success anukovachu considering its cost

Ika Billa, Mangatha Superhit analemo instead of Blockbuster

Ika Nanna movie abv avg or success ...HIT ela avutundi chennai tappa rest centers pay cheyyaledu ga
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@Pheonix...IH's list kuda pettandi overall...
descending order aythe...
1)Robo
2)Sivaji
3)Chandramukhi


TN varaki Gilli IH esukovachu. Migathaa emi levvu ee heros ki.
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Good Compilation ...

By the way I Superhit or Blockbuster ela avutundi....Its just Success anukovachu considering its cost

Ika Billa, Mangatha Superhit analemo instead of Blockbuster

Ika Nanna movie abv avg or success ...HIT ela avutundi chennai tappa rest centers pay cheyyaledu ga



YS Garu,

I may be hit/SH due to 30% tax,but despite that its biggest grosser in TN after Robo.Critics might have teared the film,but contrary to that it did ran superbly thanks to Shankar Hype and Pongal holidays

Due to negligent indulgence in Promotion  & nil Bloated figures/ Post release func Ajith films are always underated in BO compared to his contemporary Vijay.
If Billa/Mankatha are called Superhits, Pokiri/Thuppakki/Singam/Saamys should be called Superhits as well.

Billa/Pokiri almost same level worldwide grossers that year next to Sivaji,considering the budget Ditribution rights/ROI/ and Euphoria it created after release its Blockbuster written all over.It was Trendsetter in TN for style.

Mankatha during release was biggest non-rajini grosser leave alone Dasavatharam.One of rare hits where from everyone from theatre canteen guy to Distributor to producer every1 in chain reaped reaped profits.


It was a Sensation post release and Pillai article post release.

http://www.sify.com/movies/ajith-is-emperor-of-opening-news-tamil-ljikwwaajbjsi.html

Ajith is emperor of opening

  
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Ajith’s 50th golden jubilee film Mankatha has broken many myths. The Venkat Prabhu directed entertainer has taken an earth shaking opening worldwide.

Mankatha is said to have garnered an estimated whopping Rs 25.2 Crore net, from 370 odd screens in Tamil Nadu during the Ramzan-Vinayaga Chathurthi big five day weekend (August 31 to September 4).

The film as per trade pundits is likely to net (after deducting 15% entertainment tax) an awesome Rs 30 Crore in its first week! Mankatha will become the second highest opener in history of Tamil cinema after Superstar Rajinikanth’s Enthiran which netted Rs 39.5 Crore in its first week from Tamil Nadu.

The loyalty and devotion of his fans across the world has made Mankatha take such a huge opening. There is something in Thala as Ajith is affectionately called by his fans, which attracts all sections of the audiences and it worked perfectly as the film was marketed as a solo release during a five-day festival weekend.

Added to that in a state where politics and cinema go hand- in- hand, the ruling Jayalalithaa government did not interfere in the release of Mankatha produced by her arch-rival and former Chief Minister Karunanidhi’s grandson Dhyanidhi Alagiri and marketed by Kalanithi Maran

Ajith, has proved with Mankatha that he commands the biggest opening of the season. That's star power for you. Method acting be damned. People love to come and watch the actor on screen and does not mind whether he plays the bad guy who is mean and malevolent, takes girls for a ride or smokes and drinks on screen! 

He has reinvented the Tamil film mass hero image with Mankatha and the audiences simply loved it, as proved by the box-office.

The critics can eat crow, because bad reviews or lack of pre-release publicity hardly matters at the box-office if it is a Thala film. He keeps aloof and is never seen at public functions, not even at the audio launch of his films! 

The star has also kept away from the lucrative ad world and does not endorse any product, nor can you see him giving television bytes! Ajith is the only star in the country who refuses to promote or endorse his films, as he has said in many interviews- “My film will do the talking”!

Today, Ajith is the clear number two at the Tamil Nadu box-office, thanks to his gargantuan opening. Trade pundits say today Ajith power at the Tamil Nadu box-office is second only to superstar Rajinikanth. Why? The money invested in an Ajith film comes back to the investors at a faster rate than any other star. 

Vinayak Mahadevan the character the actor plays in Mankatha echoes similar sentiments - “It’s money,money, money”.

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Mankatha during release was biggest non-rajini grosser leave alone Dasavatharam.One of rare hits where from everyone from theatre canteen guy to Distributor to producer every1 in chain reaped reaped profits.


aa Line meaning correct ga ardham kaalehdu kaani... Dasavatharam kante peddha hit ayithe maathram Most Comedy annattu.. Dasavatharam Chennai City lo Around 11C cheste... mankatha 8.5C chesindhi... Overseas ayithe asala pakkana padeyocchu... Only Malaysia Dasavatharam 1.7M vunte Mankatha 1.1M vundhi... inka US,UK cheppe pane ledhu...


ledhu Non-Rajini, Non-Dasavatharam lo Biggest Hit ante maathram OK... adhi kuda 4th Highest grosser anthe...But I Doubt it.. Singam ki cross chesindha ante Doubt ye...okavela ayina kuda ventane 7Amarivu vachi cross chesesindhi kuda... Mankatha was not even year's Highest grosser
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Mankatha during release was biggest non-rajini grosser leave alone Dasavatharam.One of rare hits where from everyone from theatre canteen guy to Distributor to producer every1 in chain reaped reaped profits.
aa Line meaning correct ga ardham kaalehdu kaani... Dasavatharam kante peddha hit ayithe maathram Most Comedy annattu.. Dasavatharam Chennai City lo Around 11C cheste... mankatha 8.5C chesindhi... Overseas ayithe asala pakkana padeyocchu... Only Malaysia Dasavatharam 1.7M vunte Mankatha 1.1M vundhi... inka US,UK cheppe pane ledhu... ledhu Non-Rajini, Non-Dasavatharam lo Biggest Hit ante maathram OK... adhi kuda 4th Highest grosser anthe...But I Doubt it.. Singam ki cross chesindha ante Doubt ye...okavela ayina kuda ventane 7Amarivu vachi cross chesesindhi kuda... Mankatha was not even year's Highest grosser


Dasavatharam I meant its bigger grosser than Mankatha apart from Rajni films.

After its release Mankatha become 4 th highest grosser WW and 7 sense came 2month after that.
Worldwide 7sense ahead of M due to telugu advantage.

Mankatha in TN is much bigger than Singam..Easilyit comes after
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Ajith- 55 films

Blockbuster/Superhits

Arrambam(2013) - SuperHit

Average-AboveAverage range films

Yennai Arindhal(2013)- Above Average (Hit outside TN)

 


ee rendu doubte...arrambam TN lo pettindi recover avvaledu ani ABO vesadu appatlo..
inka YA aythe 30% loss overall ga TN lone..inka Abv avg enti
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ThePhoenix, If possible Mankatha, Billa enta chesayo pettandi...Somehow Ajiths list is bloated anipistondi
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Ippude chustunna so many questions cameup for debate. Intiki vachaka reply chestha
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Yennai Arindhaal Abv Avg aa...? TN lo Flop ae ga.. entha pay chesindi
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First things first, So before we go on debating about each film please define precisely what can be considered a Hit, then SuperHit and what makes it Blockbuster. I don't find any universally accepted definition of each/  

I think we are taking the labels BB, SuperHit, Hit, Abv-Avg etc way more seriously. I see these terms being loosely used  elsewhere like BB for even decent hits and one term being used in place of the other.

  As I said in my first post, the lines between one term to another is blurred, on top of that the difficulty in getting exact TN BO numbers.

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What may seem like average to others may seem moderate hit, or BB may seem SH depending on their criterion to label  these terms ROI, WW gross and so many others each have their own. anduke ee list pettamani adiginapppudu okariddarini adiganu what exactly do you mean by Avg, flop, Hit, SH, BB.

   Here is what I considered, if it's upcoming hero(at the time of release) film purely based on ROI, leading hero ante based on hero's range, other heroes range in that leauge and Worldwide gross 

     inka ila label cheseppudu prathi movie ni intha detailed ga analyse chesi cheyledu oka andaza ga vesinave, so let's not  nit pick on each term and see. in my world only decent-hit, big hit, flop exists.  

    indulo inni levels of classifications petti cheydaniki antha precise tracked number levu TN ku. inka distributors antha loss intha loss ee story lu anni cinema la ki vineve.

 

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Good Compilation ...

By the way I Superhit or Blockbuster ela avutundi....Its just Success anukovachu considering its cost


Sir, pedda films ki purely ROI, cost basis lo chuste 90% of the time ye movie kuda hit or max SH range dati povu. atleast that's how view when considering it's status.

I ante second biggest grosser in tamil after Endhiran. India lo Kathi, Sivaji lanti vati ni comfortable ga cross chesindi and overseas lo almost on par with Sivaji which remained unbeaten for many years.

second biggest grosser aina film ni blockbuster kaka inkem antam. inka distributors loss ayyaru, producer loss ayyaru ane danni batti judge cheydam is unfair esp when the distributors see this more like  a gambling than a business.



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Ika Billa, Mangatha Superhit analemo instead of Blockbuster

Ika Nanna movie abv avg or success ...HIT ela avutundi chennai tappa rest centers pay cheyyaledu ga


Sir abv-avg, success , Hit  vammo _/\_ decent ga fare chesina cinema range lo ne inni classifications cheyocha [smile] 

Nanna laanti movie nenu antha serious ga theesukuni point by point label cheyledu. appati Vikram films ki reasonably well aadindhi annanatha varaku cheppanu. I didn't even follow Vikram's films much after Anniyan or before Gemini. anduke I even forgot films like Dhil which was a hit. but Nanna fared decently dont know if it can be called hit or not. 

reg mankatha and Billa, I will give the apprx numbers sir. so, it's upto you to interpret what to call it.
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Yennai Arindhaal Abv Avg aa...? TN lo Flop ae ga.. entha pay chesindi

Yennai arindhaal avg ga fare chesinidi TN varaku. kerala, KA lo nu average-abvAvg ga chesindi with minor losses. Overseas lo hit around $4.5mn collect chesindi just slightly less than his Arrambam.

TN lo 48cr gross chesindi. WW close to 90cr chesindi. share teesukunte around 45cr untundi TN alone being 25cr with tax upto 30%.

distributors ki pettina amount recover kaledu. on the whole WW around 7cr distributors ki thakkuva chesindi. kaani the loss numbers are just exaggerated in twitter. inka, distributors ROI is not my criterion
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ThePhoenix, If possible Mankatha, Billa enta chesayo pettandi...Somehow Ajiths list is bloated anipistondi


Mankatha: WW 75cr Gross . 45cr share apprx.
TN: 47cr gross. 32cr share, KL:1.4cr share, KA+ROI: 2.2cr share.
Overseas: $3.6mn

Billa: 27-28cr share WW. TN:20cr share, KA+KL+ROI: 2.4cr, Overseas: $2.35mn gross

Mankatha release time ki top-4 film after Endhiran, Sivaji & Dasa. Billa was top4/5 film at the time of it's release.

ee numbers aa time ki big numbers ye, especially for Ajith. but the difference between top2 films and these is huge hinting at yawning gap between the potential market and what these films collected. So, I do feel that both Billa & Mankatha are borderline blockbusters if you will.

But the reason I termed them BB is top-5 films lo okati ga unte BB annatu teesukunna. but like I said, these terms are loosely used and there isn't any exact definition.

inka migatha movies bloated em anipistunnai. rest of them were appropriate. Ajith always lagged behindi in converting hits to bit hits and averages to hits coz factors like lack of universal appeal, weak in Kerala n others etc (relative to others in his league). that's why he eneded up with many average to abv-avg hits despite some good films.
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Yennai Arindhaal bad release valla baga kill aindi cinema. release aind bad season lo, daani ki thodu Anegan cinema next week release aipovadam tho baga debba padindi. second week nunchi drop aipoindi after a good start. right time lo release chesunte inkastha baga pay chesedi movie.

TN lo kuda flop ane range lo cheyledu. even with with high tax 25cr chesindi. but did very well overseas.
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ee rendu doubte...arrambam TN lo pettindi recover avvaledu ani ABO vesadu appatlo..
inka YA aythe 30% loss overall ga TN lone..inka Abv avg enti


bhaiyya, ikkada ABO lekkalu enduku le. vaadi tamil films ki pette lekkalo unna bokkalu enno. 

inka pettina cost recover ayye lekkalu light le. adhi mee criterion aithe fine.
ROI prakaram teesukunte Robo, Sivaji kuda flop ye. Kathi will be just a marginal hit. 7am arivu will be above-avg. pedda cinema la ku Recovery lekkalu chusukunte okka cinema kuda Superhit minchi padadhu.

ee loss lekkalu chala chebutharu tamil nadu lo. anni cinema lu loss ye antaru. mari enduku kontaru ajith cinema lu. it may or may not be true, or their loss numbers are overblown. aina distributors koni movie baga aadina recover kaaledu ante movie ni anala distributor ni anala.

Lingaa ni Robo collect chesina amount kanna ekkuva ki konnanu annadu konna distributor ye. malli loss vachindhi ani 5th day nunche roju media headlines ekkadu mari emanali.

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ee rendu doubte...arrambam TN lo pettindi recover avvaledu ani ABO vesadu appatlo..
inka YA aythe 30% loss overall ga TN lone..inka Abv avg enti


idhe lekalone TN lo Jilla kuda loss aindi. Thalaivaa kuda. but avi overseas and other states lo baga fare chesindi kabatte Avg, abv-avg annadi. inka 30% loss anedi overblown figure. 30% tax valla malli price terms malli marchukunntaru distributors.

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inka ABO vadu edho hearsay meeda vestuntadu tamil movies numebers or news, ave gospel truth la follow avakandi 

inka ABO real tracking chesi pedutunnadu edho gali vataniki peduthunnada overseas or kerala (old movies) chustene telustundi.

monna I movie ki anukunta. Taran adarsh report chesinavanni list chesadu individual ga,migathavanni overseas markets ante Singapore, Europe, UAE, GCC, Srilanka lantivi anni kalipi 10cr chesindi 12 days ki ani pettadu. 
tharvatha numbers chuste matrame okka UAE 9cr ($1.5M) undhi. ante migathavanni markets 1cr chesinatta aithe [biggrin]

inka patha movies ki pette numbers ghoram ga untai. Chandramukhi 2cr overseas share annadu oka sari ante overseas <$1M annattu. teera chuste okka Malaysia matrame $1.4M+ undhi.  

Thuppaki 4.8cr share cheste kerala lo 3cr share chesindi ani vestadu. ila chala unnai.
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@Pheonix...IH's list kuda pettandi overall...
descending order aythe...
1)Robo
2)Sivaji
3)Chandramukhi


Endhiran,
Sivaji,
Chandramukhi
Padayappa
Indian (idhi IH untundhi ani na strong feeling, but some say it's not. not very sure. but will be atleast close to then IH)
Baasha
Annamalai

inka patha movies lo Chinna Thambi lantivi unnai but ave only TN varake na WW ah telidu. inka appatlo vi kerala, bangalore, overseas ila anni chotla track chesi IH ainda leda ani cheppadam antha kastam.

inka 80s lo ki velthe Apoorva Sagotharagal, Padikathavan, etc IH ai untai ani nammakam. 

inka tamil industyr lo IH ane term ye telidu, it's a term coined in Telugu industry. akkada ye producer, hero or fans and media hype cheste adhe IH.
 
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@Pheonix...IH's list kuda pettandi overall...
descending order aythe...
1)Robo
2)Sivaji
3)Chandramukhi


TN varaki Gilli IH esukovachu. Migathaa emi levvu ee heros ki.


yeah. TN varaku varaku Ghilli undochu. WW unlikely. inka appatlo Vijay action, mass hero ga beginning phase kabatti other states, overseas lo aa bhari range raledu.. Ghilli tharvatha oka leap, Thuppakki tharvatha another big leap vachindi in terms of his reach
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Tamil lo IH kottali ante chala kastam. hero has to be storng in all all areas which is very difficult.

Telugu lo ippudu aithe overseas, A centres prominence baga perigindi kaani 10yrs back varaku a hero strong in just B&C centres or one strong A, B centres can pull off an IH given a good movie and timing.

but tamil lo IH kottali ante he has to be strong in all centres, overseas, kerala and karnataka. it's spread across regions that have different tastes and sensibilites. TN lo strong unnodu Kerala or KA lo undalani ledu, overseas lo kodathadu anedi ledu.
Malaysia/Singapore lo aadinattu Europe/Canada/US lo aadathu.  That's why ppl like Rajini gave consistent IHs with big margin as he had following from age 6 to 60 in all centres in india & abroad during his time.
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<<I may be hit/SH due to 30% tax,but despite that its biggest grosser in TN after Robo.Critics might have teared the film,but contrary to that it did ran superbly thanks to Shankar Hype and Pongal holidays>>

tamil lo varaku critics kuda em pedda analedu, it got good reviews, if not great. inka web world lo ne koncham mixed talk vachindi kaani overall it had decent to good talk based on area/audience. Shankar films ante aa grandeur, music, songs picturization ki epudu pedda draw untundhi esepcially in A centres, Kerala, overseas lo irrespective of talk. 

inka Aascar Ravi gurinchi cheppedemundhi marketing guru. perfect marketing, distribution & release.
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Mankatha during release was biggest non-rajini grosser leave alone Dasavatharam.One of rare hits where from everyone from theatre canteen guy to Distributor to producer every1 in chain reaped reaped profits.
aa Line meaning correct ga ardham kaalehdu kaani... Dasavatharam kante peddha hit ayithe maathram Most Comedy annattu.. Dasavatharam Chennai City lo Around 11C cheste... mankatha 8.5C chesindhi... Overseas ayithe asala pakkana padeyocchu... Only Malaysia Dasavatharam 1.7M vunte Mankatha 1.1M vundhi... inka US,UK cheppe pane ledhu... ledhu Non-Rajini, Non-Dasavatharam lo Biggest Hit ante maathram OK... adhi kuda 4th Highest grosser anthe...But I Doubt it.. Singam ki cross chesindha ante Doubt ye...okavela ayina kuda ventane 7Amarivu vachi cross chesesindhi kuda... Mankatha was not even year's Highest grosser


Dasavatharam ni Mankatha okka TN lo matrame match cheygaligindi. rest of the places no comparison Dasvatharam did about 50% more. 

inka Singam(2010) ante case reverse. TN lo lagged behind Mankatha may be Ayan kanna kuda thakkuva anukunta. but gave him big reach in other states.  Kerala, karnataka. appatlo KA lo big number ye collect chesindi for a tamil film. In, overseas on par with Mankatha. Malaysia lo Singam ekkuva kaani, migatha places lo mankatha baga chesindi. Singam more or less around 38-40cr chesindi.
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ThePhoenix, If possible Mankatha, Billa enta chesayo pettandi...Somehow Ajiths list is bloated anipistondi


Mankatha: WW 75cr Gross . 45cr share apprx.
TN: 47cr gross. 32cr share, KL:1.4cr share, KA+ROI: 2.2cr share.
Overseas: $3.6mn

Billa: 27-28cr share WW. TN:20cr share, KA+KL+ROI: 2.4cr, Overseas: $2.35mn gross

Mankatha release time ki top-4 film after Endhiran, Sivaji & Dasa. Billa was top4/5 film at the time of it's release.

ee numbers aa time ki big numbers ye, especially for Ajith. but the difference between top2 films and these is huge hinting at yawning gap between the potential market and what these films collected. So, I do feel that both Billa & Mankatha are borderline blockbusters if you will.

But the reason I termed them BB is top-5 films lo okati ga unte BB annatu teesukunna. but like I said, these terms are loosely used and there isn't any exact definition.

inka migatha movies bloated em anipistunnai. rest of them were appropriate. Ajith always lagged behindi in converting hits to bit hits and averages to hits coz factors like lack of universal appeal, weak in Kerala n others etc (relative to others in his league). that's why he eneded up with many average to abv-avg hits despite some good films.


ThePhoenix, Top 4th or 5th place vunte Blockbuster ani ela antamandi especially for Top star like Ajith.

Ippudu Racha, Businessman Top-3 lo vastayi but still we dont call them blockbusters.

Top 1-3 movies nu BB anachu kani taruvata kashtam esp for Top heroes
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@Pheonix...IH's list kuda pettandi overall...
descending order aythe...
1)Robo
2)Sivaji
3)Chandramukhi


TN varaki Gilli IH esukovachu. Migathaa emi levvu ee heros ki.


yeah. TN varaku varaku Ghilli undochu. WW unlikely. inka appatlo Vijay action, mass hero ga beginning phase kabatti other states, overseas lo aa bhari range raledu.. Ghilli tharvatha oka leap, Thuppakki tharvatha another big leap vachindi in terms of his reach


murugadoss ki chala runpadi undali vijay. totally changed his image from a oora mass hero to a universal applealing hero. characterisations alantivi both kaththi and thupakki.
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 ThePhoenix, Top 4th or 5th place vunte Blockbuster ani ela antamandi especially for Top star like Ajith.

Ippudu Racha, Businessman Top-3 lo vastayi but still we dont call them blockbusters.

Top 1-3 movies nu BB anachu kani taruvata kashtam esp for Top heroes 


OK. point taken bro. updated the list
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Yardstick , 

what's your take on distributors buying big star films for huge prices and touting losses, in many cases even if the film does well. alanti cases lo movie flop ani rate cheydam meeda mee take enti sir.
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Sir, wts our Rajni next film..esari chala gattiga kodtadu anpistundi especially in Telugu..
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Sir, wts our Rajni next film..esari chala gattiga kodtadu anpistundi especially in Telugu..

madras film teesina dir tho anta...gattiga kotte age datipoindi gani l8 teeskondi..
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prastutam tamil lo
rajni,kamal,vijay,ajith,surya,dhanush/vikram anukunta in terms of craze/fan following...
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My 2 cents

Blockbuster/Superhit/Hit terms usually people associate with the impact/euphoria in people's mind & sort of BO record movie created with almost(negligible) nil fuss from the trade chain post its release.

Films like Ghajini/Sivaji/Billa/Pokiri/Endhiran/Singam/Mankatha/Thupakki has done that so I do believe they are all Potentila BBs .Racha/Businessman doesnt fall here.


Again one more unlike Telugu,Sivaji remained unbeatable for long time.It took 4 years to beat Magadheera Worldwide but it takes 8 years to beat only Top2 Sivaji by same Shankars I this explains the difference,so if its Top3 for Telugu it can be Top 6 for tamil based on that logic.

Also directors have terrific control on setting films hype/expectation and BO range  in Tamil than Telugu with Rajamouli being exception.
Top 5 list has 3 Shankar films,2 Murugadoss films even abo-avg 7 sense was huge grosser that time in Top 5.

So in Tamil If we have to follw Telugu norm of BB/SH we have to create two list with Rajini being exception.

Rajini is kind of star whose BO domination you cannot find in any industry thanks to market span across different geographies with different sense and taste,lot of difference exist between Tamil & Telugu.

Market norms,sensibilities & dynamics change from industry to industry,so clubbing everything wouldn't be appropriate IMO.





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My 2 cents

Blockbuster/Superhit/Hit terms usually people associate with the impact/euphoria in people's mind & sort of BO record movie created with almost(negligible) nil fuss from the trade chain post its release.

Films like Ghajini/Sivaji/Billa/Pokiri/Endhiran/Singam/Mankatha/Thupakki has done that so I do believe they are all Potentila BBs .Racha/Businessman doesnt fall here.


Again one more unlike Telugu,Sivaji remained unbeatable for long time.It took 4 years to beat Magadheera Worldwide but it takes 8 years to beat only Top2 Sivaji by same Shankars I this explains the difference,so if its Top3 for Telugu it can be Top 6 for tamil based on that logic.

Also directors have terrific control on setting films hype/expectation and BO range  in Tamil than Telugu with Rajamouli being exception.
Top 5 list has 3 Shankar films,2 Murugadoss films even abo-avg 7 sense was huge grosser that time in Top 5.

So in Tamil If we have to follw Telugu norm of BB/SH we have to create two list with Rajini being exception.

Rajini is kind of star whose BO domination you cannot find in any industry thanks to market span across different geographies with different sense and taste,lot of difference exist between Tamil & Telugu.

Market norms,sensibilities & dynamics change from industry to industry,so clubbing everything wouldn't be appropriate IMO.


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Especially Post Sivaji peroid..top 5 loki oste BB ani consider cheyochu..Arrambam doubt gani..,Mankatha was a BB


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>>>Films like Ghajini/Sivaji/Billa/Pokiri/Endhiran/Singam/Mankatha/Thupakki has done that so I do believe they are all Potentila BBs .Racha/Businessman doesnt fall here.<<<

In this list Billa and Mankatha are again odd man out...Neither they had that kind of impact nor the business...Terminology is our convenience...we can change it as we please and call anything as we would like to see it
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Yardstick , 

what's your take on distributors buying big star films for huge prices and touting losses, in many cases even if the film does well. alanti cases lo movie flop ani rate cheydam meeda mee take enti sir.


Its tricky and may be we have to see case to case basis.

SOS, GG, Temper, I etc fall in this category. May be we should term them as Avg movies 
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>>>Films like Ghajini/Sivaji/Billa/Pokiri/Endhiran/Singam/Mankatha/Thupakki has done that so I do believe they are all Potentila BBs .Racha/Businessman doesnt fall here.<<<

In this list Billa and Mankatha are again odd man out...Neither they had that kind of impact nor the business...Terminology is our convenience...we can change it as we please and call anything as we would like to see it


In tht case except sivaji endhiran and Thuppakki, rest are more or less same in revenue and impact. In tamil Ghajini wasn't so ch a huge grosser remake/dubbing valla ala anipistundhi. It collected less around 11-12 in TN. Inka Pokkiri and Billa hardly 2cr difference WW.

Inka like Drona says we can't go by hard and fast rules for terming blockbuster and should be done on case by case basis.
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>>>Films like Ghajini/Sivaji/Billa/Pokiri/Endhiran/Singam/Mankatha/Thupakki has done that so I do believe they are all Potentila BBs .Racha/Businessman doesnt fall here.<<<

In this list Billa and Mankatha are again odd man out...Neither they had that kind of impact nor the business...Terminology is our convenience...we can change it as we please and call anything as we would like to see it
Ajith anagane gurtuku vache movies Billa & Mankatha , avi rendu cult films for ajith , vaatini kuda BB list lo veyoddu ante ajith last 15 years career lo asalu BB ye ledanattu .

Billa ni excuse ni chesina atleast Mankatha ki ayina BB status ivvali  anta kante pedda hit ajith nunchi expect cheyalem . Surya , vijay BB's compare to cheste takkuva pay chesi vundochu but ajith range ki danni BB ane anali .
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Phoenix annay... sare kaani... Asalu ippudu Tamil lo tax entha vundhi... Monna Demonte Colony ki Sreedhar pillai.. Gross some 5.9C ani vesi.. Nett 5.1C ani vesaadu... Paina meeru kuda mankatha ki 47C Gross ki... 32C Share ani vesaaru... veetiki 30% tax kaadha,.....
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Mankatha time -Tax was 15% Radhika Distributed film in Tamilnadu and she has mentioned net as 45C.

Amma made it to 30% in 2012.Only Film with Tamil title,U certificate and Exempted by Government Tax commitee would get total 30% exempted where gross would become net.
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