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Sampeyandra kathulu thesukochi roju edche badhulu
Communal riots cheyyalane kada idhanta
Ambedhkar vachentha varaki chadhuvuku dikku ledu oka gen Lo few people bagu padithe edisi sastunnaru
Constitution lo religious freedom undhi ani marchipoyi baritheginchi matladuthunnaru


Lol nee frustration ambedkar reference enduku..


Abrahamic religions cheelchi chendadadu ... aayana Peru pettukoni meeku maatladey arhata ledu..


Reservations are given to people who have been discriminated from centuries in hinduism and to correct that mistake... vallaki genuine reservations..



Ee abrahamic religion lo vunnavallu asalu discrimination gueinchi matladoddu ... the whole and sole meaning of those religions are people who are not in that religion are sinners and they will be doomed forever.. deenikantey pedda discrimination vuntaada.. hindus celebrate Christmas, will u guys dare to step in to a temple, u treat them satans .... u guys should be the last ones to talk about discrimination..



Ivanni telisey as mahanbhavudu religious minorities ki reservations ivvaledu... he is genius and visionary
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Em natakalu aaduthunnaru okaremo converted SCs danger Anta entha udharisthunnaro SC st bc ni
Vammo inkodu churchs kaduthunnara is it illegal to build a religious construction
Democracy ambedkar rasadu kabatti sa
ripoyindi lekunte asalu brathakaniche vara eee mano vaadha desham lo


First point...

Christians ga convert ayyaka why do they need to still have HINDU in official documents and have SC reservation ? Is it not illegal ?

Ika SCs reservations ichaka not developing antunnaru...last 30 years ga SC lo creamy layer is completely using the reservations and the actual SCs who are in slums, downtrodden are devoid of their right...

Is it wrong that actual SCs get their due right...If not even after centuries how will they get benefiited...
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Aadhar lo Hindu unte they cannot get the Pastor incentive No?
Yes appudu kuda there will be Christian SCs in Nomral people but Atleast Hindu ani Certificates lo unde Pastors aithe undaru.


@Axe, mari amayakudi laa vunnav... govt. kavali ante adhar daaka enduku asalu ee certificates ichedi anatava... its all part of vote bank for any party (and its their moral responsibility for YCP)

mana chinapti nunchi chustunade kadha... ipudu konchem aduguthunaru anthe teda...
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@Axe, mari amayakudi laa vunnav... govt. kavali ante adhar daaka enduku asalu ee certificates ichedi anatava... its all part of vote bank for any party (and its their moral responsibility for YCP)

mana chinapti nunchi chustunade kadha... ipudu konchem aduguthunaru anthe teda...


So UP lo Yogi fix chesadu antara MM ?

Is it not National issue and which needs bigger consent and rules
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So UP lo Yogi fix chesadu antara MM ?

Is it not National issue and which needs bigger consent and rules


Unlike AP and TN... rest of the country lo this not yet a big issue.. there are atleast 2-3 decades back in this conversion... akkada Hindu-Muslim is more important and Yogi has fixed law and order better than others...

meeku BJP/RSS lanti vaalu deeni paina fighting ante see Orrissa and Jharkhand... how they are fighting there and when they form govts... entha difference vundo..

country wide chese roju vastundi but apatiki AP sanka naakipoyidi anthe nenu chepedi... 


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Unlike AP and TN... rest of the country lo this not yet a big issue.. there are atleast 2-3 decades back in this conversion... akkada Hindu-Muslim is more important and Yogi has fixed law and order better than others...

meeku BJP/RSS lanti vaalu deeni paina fighting ante see Orrissa and Jharkhand... how they are fighting there and when they form govts... entha difference vundo..

country wide chese roju vastundi but apatiki AP sanka naakipoyidi anthe nenu chepedi... 





All round coastal belt in south India already chaala %ayipoyindi ...


That is why I say CBN odipovadaniki karanam CBN ey, happy gaa vadilesadu massive conversions chudakunda ekkada sentiments hurt avutayo ani.. how in his world he thought that they will become his vote bank ... isnt it very obvious whom they support and vote..


AP is bound to become another GOa Manipur Nagaland like state in just one more term
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Google Maps lo yedho oka place search chesi konchem zoom chesthe, you will find more churches than Temples 😁

(Atleast maa Rjy lo ave ekkuva chupistundhi..)
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All round coastal belt in south India already chaala %ayipoyindi ...


That is why I say CBN odipovadaniki karanam CBN ey, happy gaa vadilesadu massive conversions chudakunda ekkada sentiments hurt avutayo ani.. how in his world he thought that they will become his vote bank ... isnt it very obvious whom they support and vote..


AP is bound to become another GOa Manipur Nagaland like state in just one more term


daaniki inka time vundi lendi... COnversion is one side.. capturing the influential media, intelligentsia eco system is other part... 

KL, TN lo aa influence conversion batch ki vundi anduke media motham vaale.. 24*7 north south godavalu etc.. But if u see entire TN... still conversions progress has slowed down well as ppl are more castiest there and are tightly linked to local dieties culture (brahmin priest vundaru.. and mana ganganama, gangamathali laaga anamata)

ikada manaki conversions baaga nadustunayi but inka aa prime influential space ki raledu vaalu.. but lucky ga vaala vaade CM avatam (Even though if CM is intrested in these things or not.. his family supports them wholeheartedly)

i studied in a missionary school and have many friends there.. we all speak to each other and are quite good even now.. but underline they have that pride sense of their person being CM and how that family helped the missionaries.. (andaru SC's ee okadu kuda caste bayata pelli chesukoledu.. okadu IPS ayadu and got married to other state businessman's daughter from the same community)

CBN is an opportunist.. andarini satisfy cheyali ani anitini chusi chudantu vadilesadu... ipudaina antarvedi issue lo Hindu sanghalu vachayi kaani protest ki oka TDP flag kanapadadhu.. ade vere valladi ayite TDP leaders line lo vunde vaaru (they are sure Hindus vote on caste based.. kaani aa rojulu mellaga pothunayi..)

 
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Google Maps lo yedho oka place search chesi konchem zoom chesthe, you will find more churches than Temples 😁

(Atleast maa Rjy lo ave ekkuva chupistundhi..)
its same across in entire AP and TN... 
its easy to establish a church.. just oka building thisukoni... devuni vigraham petti.. nenu pastor ante chaalu.. govt. chakaga benifits istundi and foriegn nunchi funds vasthayi... its more like a start up... (ade nuvu temple kadithe next day govt. vachi handover chesukuntundi)

official christian population of AP 7 lacs.. pastors receiving 5k per month 30k... (inka peragachu as there is no limit and criteria) 

In August, the Reddy government issued another order to provide for an honorarium of Rs 5,000 per month for pastors. To know their numbers in the state for budget allocation and allowance disbursal, the government has asked the district collectors to enumerate the pastors through a survey.

 
https://theprint.in/politics/jagan-reddys-christian-politics-is-under-fire-for-burdening-exchequer-conversions/325407/

the government was also preparing to fulfill other promises for the Christian community — like plots and house construction for pastors, and financial assistance of Rs 1 lakh for wedding of Christian girls, among others.
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Unlike AP and TN... rest of the country lo this not yet a big issue.. there are atleast 2-3 decades back in this conversion... akkada Hindu-Muslim is more important and Yogi has fixed law and order better than others...

meeku BJP/RSS lanti vaalu deeni paina fighting ante see Orrissa and Jharkhand... how they are fighting there and when they form govts... entha difference vundo..

country wide chese roju vastundi but apatiki AP sanka naakipoyidi anthe nenu chepedi... 



SCs are devoid of their rights with Xians claiming to be Hindu SCs

How is Hindu-Mulsim related to this ?

I am asking if Yogi has fixed this ?

This is not a state level thing to blame Jagan ....Its something sensitive and a topic of the Nation and rules need to be implemented

We have UCC, CAA/NRC and economy , China/Pak issues...so this one took back seat but definitely surface in years to come...

This will help SCs a lot and in turn the country. Creamy layer kuda pettali for even more better results
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ee bafoon gallaki pastor ga money ravali.....reservation kosam hindu certificate kavali.........
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mee Anna ee kada issue.. meeru GVL batch kabati.. minga leka kaka leka vunnaru.. ilanti threads lo lite thisukondi haayiga... [rofl]

Edo "Christian Brahmin Seva Samiti" ani vundi...aa type lo vuntundi YS situation....manasu okati antundi....kani piki cheppadam kastam.... [smile]
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Aadhar lo Hindu unte they cannot get the Pastor incentive No?
Yes appudu kuda there will be Christian SCs in Nomral people but Atleast Hindu ani Certificates lo unde Pastors aithe undaru.

Pastors varaku ee situation lo work avutundi.... but in general reservation use chesukuntaru....fake hindu certificate to.... 
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Sampeyandra kathulu thesukochi roju edche badhulu
Communal riots cheyyalane kada idhanta
Ambedhkar vachentha varaki chadhuvuku dikku ledu oka gen Lo few people bagu padithe edisi sastunnaru
Constitution lo religious freedom undhi ani marchipoyi baritheginchi matladuthunnaru

prati daniki victim card play cheyadame.... asalu christian ga convert ina vallaki reservation enduku ivvali....
sc/st attrocity laws ni abuse chesinantaga ee laws chesi chesi vundaru...kani ilantivi media lo ravu...sc/st lani tokkutunnaru antaru ani....
reservations : fake certificates to reservations...
govt nunchi vachhe anni free schemes ki vellu eligible avutaru....OCs lo poor lera..... 
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prati daniki victim card play cheyadame.... asalu christian ga convert ina vallaki reservation enduku ivvali....
sc/st attrocity laws ni abuse chesinantaga ee laws chesi chesi vundaru...kani ilantivi media lo ravu...sc/st lani tokkutunnaru antaru ani....
reservations : fake certificates to reservations...
govt nunchi vachhe anni free schemes ki vellu eligible avutaru....OCs lo poor lera..... 


SCs nundi Xians ga convert ayina vallu BC 'C' reservation vartistundi...they can avail that...

So they can have BC-C and their co SCs can use the SC reservation..

So its being fair and also showing concern for fellow SCs who are much backward
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SCs are devoid of their rights with Xians claiming to be Hindu SCs

How is Hindu-Mulsim related to this ?

I am asking if Yogi has fixed this ?

This is not a state level thing to blame Jagan ....Its something sensitive and a topic of the Nation and rules need to be implemented

We have UCC, CAA/NRC and economy , China/Pak issues...so this one took back seat but definitely surface in years to come...

This will help SCs a lot and in turn the country. Creamy layer kuda pettali for even more better results
lite le YS garu better u avoid this topic. This law implementation issue and I am clearly mentioning rest fo India lo inka antha paakaledu. North lo Hindu Muslims conflict is main issue not conversion, for them it can wait for another term.

State rules ni correct ga implement cheste asalu we issue enduku vuntundi?

Jagan converted ni home minister chesadu. Malla jagan em cheyagaladu anta 😂

Ask any sanghi they openly admit it’s their family who are supporting these ppl.
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SCs nundi Xians ga convert ayina vallu BC 'C' reservation vartistundi...they can avail that...

So they can have BC-C and their co SCs can use the SC reservation..

So its being fair and also showing concern for fellow SCs who are much backward

But reservations ki end ekkada India lo...?
After availing reservations backward SCs ....few yrs tarwata konta mandi Creamy layer avutaru....ippudu SCs lo well off vunna chala mandi ila reservation avail chesukoni piki vachhinavalle.....On the other side..What about poor OCs....vallaki opportunities taggi inka gap widen avutundi...remaining OCs ki....poor OCs ki.... 

Inni decades reservation impletement chesaka ina revisit cheyali kada.......

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SCs nundi Xians ga convert ayina vallu BC 'C' reservation vartistundi...they can avail that...

So they can have BC-C and their co SCs can use the SC reservation..

So its being fair and also showing concern for fellow SCs who are much backward

Idi enduku....minority category lona? 

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Idi enduku....minority category lona? 

maaa college HODs sons daughters ki kooda reservations unnai (Andaru Christian's ye Malla, SC reservations tho easy ga seats laagesthunnaru )
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Idi enduku....minority category lona? 





but BC-C is only for SCs converted to Xians...The intention is SCs event though they convert to Xians they still are backward and need support. So they are categorized as BC-C in our states. Its like we have endorsed conversions and also have given provision for it..many decades back
but it hasnt been followed...



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Meee bathukulu eppudu SC St bc medha padi edavadame
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Meee bathukulu eppudu SC St bc medha padi edavadame
minority, women ni add cheyatam marchi poyaru... avi kuda add cheseste inka 90% ni cover chesinate...
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minority, women ni add cheyatam marchi poyaru... avi kuda add cheseste inka 90% ni cover chesinate...

Meee manta thaggadhu kada raktha daaham therentha varaku
Manam n mana families safe ga unte chaalu
Istam vachinatlu rechagottadam godavalu pettadam malli laws democracy abbooooo
Jihadi batch ki meee batch ki pedda theda em ledu same ideology
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Meee bathukulu eppudu SC St bc medha padi edavadame


You are doing it...

DB lo most of the time people support SC/STs...We want reservations to help SC/STs...As of today these reservations are usurped by developed people, illegal ways...Actual needy are not getting it


Why do you think the actual SC/STs shouldn't get the reservations ?
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Meee manta thaggadhu kada raktha daaham therentha varaku
Manam n mana families safe ga unte chaalu
Istam vachinatlu rechagottadam godavalu pettadam malli laws democracy abbooooo
Jihadi batch ki meee batch ki pedda theda em ledu same ideology


Difference vundi.. we want all to be equal.. reservations should continue.. and rule of law to be respected... 

 doddi dari lo rendu vaipula benifits alavatu ayi law ni apahaasyam chestuna vaala paina maa aakrosam..

we respect all religions and we expect the same to be extended... if ppl don't honor this then we will show the mirror to them anthe.... 
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Meee bathukulu eppudu SC St bc medha padi edavadame


Sc st bc lu hinduvulu 


Nuvvevaru madyalo .....
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Difference vundi.. we want all to be equal.. reservations should continue.. and rule of law to be respected... 

 doddi dari lo rendu vaipula benifits alavatu ayi law ni apahaasyam chestuna vaala paina maa aakrosam..

we respect all religions and we expect the same to be extended... if ppl don't honor this then we will show the mirror to them anthe.... 

Show mirror abba Abbaa em chestharu RSS lo nerpinchina kathi uddhalu chesthara ikkadiki vachi
Inkem vellandi prathi village Lo oori byte untaru kanivvandi
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Sc st bc lu hinduvulu ra bhai..


Nuvvevadivira madyalo .....

Respect ichi matladu brother rss chestalu ikkada chellav
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Respect ichi matladu brother rss chestalu ikkada chellav



Nuvvu maatram mimmalni memu champestaru narikestaru ani vagochu...

SC/STs chellalsina reservations ni vadukuntunnaru
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Show mirror abba Abbaa em chestharu RSS lo nerpinchina kathi uddhalu chesthara ikkadiki vachi
Inkem vellandi prathi village Lo oori byte untaru kanivvandi
nenu RSS ki epudu vellaledu and not intrested in their ideolgy also (too extreme)

but mirror chupinchatam ante vaalu chese panulani vaalaki chupinchatam.. so vaalu thapu chestunaru ani meeru anukuntunara? 
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nenu RSS ki epudu vellaledu and not intrested in their ideolgy also (too extreme)

but mirror chupinchatam ante vaalu chese panulani vaalaki chupinchatam.. so vaalu thapu chestunaru ani meeru anukuntunara? 

Meru thappuga anukunnaru meru RSS ki vellaru analedu Sir
Generlise statement laga anna
Meru hurt ayyunte sorry
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nenu RSS ki epudu vellaledu and not intrested in their ideolgy also (too extreme)

but mirror chupinchatam ante vaalu chese panulani vaalaki chupinchatam.. so vaalu thapu chestunaru ani meeru anukuntunara? [/QUOTE




Sir, this is one bad thing about Hindus... u will easily judge the institutions working for Hindus as extreme etc but u will never see comments from other religious people about conversion mafia
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Antarvedhi Lo jarigina temple pai dhaadi gatha konni days GA anni bayataki Ravali CBI enquiry lo
Ilantivi jaragakunda temples ni kapadali gov
Hope ilanti incidents jaragakudadhu ani korukuntunna
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nenu RSS ki epudu vellaledu and not intrested in their ideolgy also (too extreme)

but mirror chupinchatam ante vaalu chese panulani vaalaki chupinchatam.. so vaalu thapu chestunaru ani meeru anukuntunara? 


Meeku RSS Shakhas gurinchi wrong notion vundi 

VHP, Ramsena, bhajrangdal, Shivsena(once) ilantivi extreme not RSS...

Nenu chusanu RSS ku Xians kuda vache varu...Jains and punjabis kuda vastaru...

They speak more about Bharat, Akhand bharat...your country, heritage etc...spirutuality, God other things are minimal...ika extreme kuda vundaru
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Meeku RSS Shakhas gurinchi wrong notion vundi 

VHP, Ramsena, bhajrangdal, Shivsena(once) ilantivi extreme not RSS...

Nenu chusanu RSS ku Xians kuda vache varu...Jains and punjabis kuda vastaru...

They speak more about Bharat, Akhand bharat...your country, heritage etc...spirutuality, God other things are minimal...ika extreme kuda vundaru


may be ayundachu... anything too much is toxic anukuntanu general ga.. may be since i never went.. i may have that notion.. at the same time maa cousins ni chusanu who went and speaking abt akand bharath (Pak, BG, AF included) etc...

but since in US may be i may send my son to RSS for some years (they have kids version where only they teach abt religion nothing else)


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nenu RSS ki epudu vellaledu and not intrested in their ideolgy also (too extreme)

but mirror chupinchatam ante vaalu chese panulani vaalaki chupinchatam.. so vaalu thapu chestunaru ani meeru anukuntunara? [/QUOTE




Sir, this is one bad thing about Hindus... u will easily judge the institutions working for Hindus as extreme etc but u will never see comments from other religious people about conversion mafia


There is nothing bad.. its too narrow to expect an organization to save a religion.. 

its similar to TDP ppl asking BJP, RSS to save hindiusm... its responsibility of all.. (vari vari saamardhyam bati react avali)
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Meru thappuga anukunnaru meru RSS ki vellaru analedu Sir
Generlise statement laga anna
Meru hurt ayyunte sorry
nothing to hurt.. emundi daantlo.. 
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but BC-C is only for SCs converted to Xians...The intention is SCs event though they convert to Xians they still are backward and need support. So they are categorized as BC-C in our states. Its like we have endorsed conversions and also have given provision for it..many decades back
but it hasnt been followed...




If somebody is xian, they should not have any caste ....Christianity lo caste emundi....caste system Hindus ke kada.... 
If converted guys truly believe in Christianity, illegal ga hindu certificate enduku....
If they are xtians, inka caste enti....reservations enduku..... 
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